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Top Ten Cartoon Shows of All Time 11-9-02

From http://radio-info.com/boards/tv/

Posted by Dee Edwards

I'm 28 years old, but I still love those cartoon shows from back in the day that I watched with a passion, plus those of today with a unique sense of humor and fun. Here's my all-time top 10 cartoon shows of all time:

10. Muppet Babies (CBS)- a animated spinoff from "The Muppets Take Manhattan", featuring the Muppets as their younger selves, featuring them in fun fantasy sequences, plus teaching kids important morals as well.

9. Super-Friends (ABC)- I watched this show religiously when I was a kid every Saturday morning, since I was a huge comic-book fan growing up, and it was cool seeing Superman, Batman, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman whip ass on the bad guys like the Joker, Penguin, and Lex Luthor, and I always loved watching the Wonder Twins do their "form of...shape of..." every time when called to action.

8. Ren & Stimpy (Nickelodeon)- I loved this show because it totally pushed the envelope, and I also enjoyed the madcap adventures of a paranoid Chihuahua and a overweight, brainless cat.

7. Mr. T (NBC)- I loved this joker when he was doing live action as part of the A-Team, but I really enjoyed this cartoon chronicalling his adventures traveling with a gymnastics team as they fought crime, and I also loved the kid who was dressed up to look like Mr. T and even sounded like him too. What the hell was that all about?

6. Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling (CBS)- When I started out being a wrestling fan, I watched this show religiously every Saturday afternoon, and it was a cool mix of animation and live action (which featured the wrestlers not out of character) which was very entertaining to watch. And the cartoon was every bit as outrageous and wild as the actual wrestling shows were.

5. Scooby-Doo (ABC and syndicated)- Oh, man, what was not to like about this show? The wild and woolly mysteries? The groovy '70's feel and attitude? The larger-than-life characters? The surprising endings? Well, this show had everything!

4. The Simpsons (Fox)- A cartoon that defied all the typical conventions of cartoons, with characters that are untypical cartoon characters. This show has given an unflinching and humerous look at a very untypical nuclear family and its numerous troubles and triumphs. Call this a animated version of the Osbournes, but without the tattoos and bleeped out segments. Also, gotta love that Bart!

3. Beavis & Butt-Head (MTV)- Another cartoon that pushed the envelope a la Ren and Stimpy, but it pushed the envelope off the table. This show chronicalled the misadventures of two heavy-metal loving, fire-starting, frog-baseball-playing morons, and made me laugh out loud with each and every crazy-ass stunt these guys pulled.

2. South Park (Comedy Central)- The third envelope-pushing show that pushed the envelope, but it REALLY pushed it. These four filthy-mouthed little troublemakers, along with the sex-obsessed school chef cum soul singer and the other oddball citizens of this seemingly normal little mountain town entertained me and made me laugh with every outrageous episode. And you had to feel for little Kenny every time he died. A truly addictive show (I also named this, Beavis and Butt-Head, and the upcoming no. 1 show in my top ten favorite show list on this board).

And the numero uno best cartoon of all time........

1. SpongeBob Squarepants (Nickelodeon)- This charming little show featuring a sweet, kind, and charmingly naive sea sponge who lives in a pineapple under the sea has definitely won a place in my heart, as well as the hearts of millions who love this show. I say this because I love the sweetness and the sincerity of the characters, namely of the title character, the hilarious, madcap misadventures that SpongeBob gets involved in, and the heartfelt, oddball humor of the show. It's a show that the whole family can watch, because it's got something for everyone.

Do you have a favorite cartoon of all-time? Which ones entertain you, make you laugh and think at the same time? Do you agree with my top ten? Well, drop off a line here and let me know if you agree with this list or not, and if you got some of your own.

From DrBear:

Animaniacs. Wildly uneven and some of the subsidiary characters were repetitive (read: Katie Ka-Boom), but at its best hilarious on dozens of levels.

Favorite exchange:

Yakko (treating - don't ask why - Rasputin for a toothache): "Nurse, the patient needs Anastasia!
(Russian princess comes out and hits Rasputin over the head with a mallet.)
Dot (to camera): "Obscure joke - ask your parents."

From jojo

My favorite cartoon show of all-time:

FAT ALBERT & THE COSBY KIDS!!!

I loved it during its 12-year run on CBS, and I loved it when UPN showed the Christmas show last year.....Hey! Hey! Hey!

From Dee Edwards

Dude, I watched Fat Albert & The Cosby Kids as well, and I also thought that show kicked ass as well. I got some more favorites: Mighty Mouse & The Mighty Heroes, Tom & Jerry, Looney Tunes, and Woody Woodpecker- all honorable mentions.

From Charles

OK, maybe I'm showing my age here (I'm 42), but here are my ten best:

10...Pink Panther
9....Underdog
8....George of the Jungle
7....Pinky and the Brain
6....Animaniacs
5....Scooby Doo, Where Are You?
4....The Jetsons
3....The Flinstones
2....Bullwinkle
1....(could there be any doubt?) Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Hour

From TheRob: 10. Flintstones
Can't go wrong with a prime-time classic.
9. South Park
Vulgar, certainly. But definitely laugh-out-loud funny. I particularly like their depiction of God, as that purple rat-dragon creature who snags flies out of the air with his tongue.
8. Pink Panther
When I was a kid, I wanted to be sneaky like the Pink Panther too. I think the same station showed the real Pink Panther movies on weekend afternoons, and I was so disappointed to find they were actual movies, not cartoons.
7. Dungeons and Dragons
Okay, so parents weren't down with this. But I thought it was pretty cool. That, and the artists knew exactly what they were doing when they designed Sheila the Thief and Diana the Acrobat.
6. Garfield (and Friends)
Just like the comic strips in most regards. Hey, he taught me to like lasagna. I believe the specialty shows came well before the regular series.
5. Transformers
What's not cool about jets and trucks and whatnot that transform into robots? The problem was those toys were so expensive at the time.
4. Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids
I can remember clearly the Christmas and Easter specials, which had a really serious tone to them (woman giving birth; elderly man hurting himself on the ladder that Rudy greased).
3. Ren and Stimpy
The first season, especially. "Space Madness" and "Rubber Nipple Salesmen" where my favorites. That whole "History Eraser Button" sequence just cracks me up.
2. The Simpsons
A classic. I can watch five days a week in syndication, and never get tired.
1. Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Hour, Looney Tunes, whatever you want to call it.
Some of my favorites:
-Wile E. Coyote talking in his aristocratic accent.
-The Martian insisting he'll destroy Earth because it "blocks his view of Venus"
-The whole Barber of Seville piece
-Yosemite Sam's easily irritable demeanor
-the scientist creating that large red monster, with no arms (just hair and sneakers), and naming him Gossamer.
Well, you get the idea. There's decades of humor there.
And although not animated, you have to give it up for puppet shows like The Muppets (particularly the Christmas special where Swedish Chef sees Big Bird from Sesame Street and nearly goes insane), and Dinosaurs (not the mama!).
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Clear Channel Radio Station Websites Offline This Weekend 11-9-02

As per 91X newsletter, all of the radio stations from Clear Channel are apparently offline for the weekend. "Please remain calm. Try not to panic. The web page you rely on for all the music news and concert tickets will be on vacation this weekend. It's been working real hard, so we decided to send it to Hawaii to detox. 91X.com will be back up and refreshed first thing Monday morning, and next week's E-File will have all the usual assortment of contests and crucial web links..."

I tried to listen to Dr. Demento on KPEZ Austin but, since that is a Clear Channel station, that radio station website is also down.

How many ways has Clear Channel NOT touched you on the Internet today.

UPDATE 10:07AM PT: KPEZ and 91X's websites are back up.

SD Radio Wires 11-9-02

John Maffei - North County Times TV/Sports
XTRA Merger Leaves Stations Scrambling
Excerpts:

The San Diego-based station (690) beat up its L.A. competition, sister station KXTA (1150), topping it in every rating period. Clear Channel ---- the parent company of both XTRA and KXTA ---- will merge the stations into what they are billing as a superstation. XTRA will be based on L.A. after the new year.

Here are a few of the rumors floating around after the merger was announced:

+ Tony Bruno of KXTA and Fox Radio will have the 5-9 a.m. slot on the new XTRA.

+ Jim Rome, who is heard on both stations now, will hold down the 9-noon period. This is a definite.

+ The afternoon slot is up for grabs. Some say KXTA's Kevin Kiley and Chuck Booms will survive. Other say XTRA's "Loose Cannons" ---- Steve Hartman and Bill Werndl ---- will slip in here. Other say XTRA's "Vast Morning Wasteland" ---- Scott Kaplan and Billy Ray Smith ---- is the choice.

+ Hamilton will work evening drive-time and be based in San Diego. This is certain.

+ The night slot, currently occupied by John Kentera at XTRA, will fall to someone else or to Fox Radio. The popular and competent Kentera appears to be out.

XTRA general manager Kevin McCarthy said decisions on a lineup are still at least a week away, maybe two.

In the meantime, other stations are scrambling. Dave Palet, program director at San Diego's XEMM (800), could pick up some of XTRA's pieces. Currently, XEMM runs ESPN Radio programs and is stuck at 1,000 watts.

Palet said the station's owners are working on a new studio and a power increase to at least 10,000 watts. That would be enough to cover the county, add local programs and bid for play-by-play properties such as the Aztecs and Padres.

Palet would like San Diego's sports fans to voice their opinions on possible lineups at 1-866-ESPN800.

KFMB 760 will not go all-sports but could add sports shows depending on what play-by-play properties are available. Currently, KFMB is the Chargers' flagship.

The Padres and Clear Channel, who have one year left on their deal with KOGO (600), are negotiating a new deal. It figures the parties will come to an agreement.

XTRA has the rights to San Diego State football and basketball.

That most definitely will change. The Aztecs could switch to KOGO or even KPOP (1360) unless a new bidder emerges.

Then there is a wild rumor John Lynch, who started sports-talk radio at XTRA a dozen years ago, will join former partner Paul Palmer and purchase a San Diego station ---- perhaps KSDO (1130) ---- and establish a San Diego-based all-sports station.

+ The upcoming "Monday Night Football" game between the Raiders and Broncos is the 500th of the series. Producer Fred Gaudelli promised plenty of clips from past games, an unveiling of the greatest MNF game of all-time as voted on by fans, dressing announcers Al Michaels and John Madden in throwback yellow ABC blazers, and a surprise or two.

+ CBS has the Chargers-Rams game live at 10 a.m. Sunday. Gus Johnson and Brent Jones are the announcers.

Jay Posner - TV/Radio Sports - The San Diego Union
Here Lies 690...Too Mighty For Itself

Sure, the station had its faults, a few of which we reluctantly pointed out every now and then in this space, but that didn't stop many fans from listening. Especially male fans between the ages of 25 and 54 - XTRA's target demographic.

The problem was that XTRA had other listeners in parts north of here - especially Orange County but also Los Angeles - where Clear Channel Communications, the company that operates XTRA, was attempting to run another all-sports station. And if people in those areas were listening to XTRA 690, they weren't tuning in to XTRA 1150 (later KXTA).

That limited Clear Channel's ability to attract advertisers in the nation's No. 2 media market (San Diego is No. 26). But if the company could make XTRA a Los Angeles/Orange County station rather than "just" a San Diego station, there would be "a huge revenue upside," as Clear Channel vice president Kevin McCarthy said last week.

And so, sometime in the next few weeks the two stations will merge and become one "superstation," based primarily in L.A. and simulcasting the same programming.

One host who knows he's leaving, John Kentera, said he was disappointed but declined to criticize Clear Channel.

Regardless of when his talk show goes off the air, Kentera will finish out the San Diego State football season, which ends Dec. 7. SDSU basketball also will air as scheduled on 690 this season (that would be the only time 690 and 1150 would air different programming). What happens to Aztecs football and basketball in the 2003-04 school year, the last year of the deal with XTRA, has yet to be determined.

Also a mystery: the name of the new station and the programming lineup beyond Rome (9 a.m.-noon) and Hamilton (3-7 p.m.). Sources say Tony Bruno will host the morning show (5-9), but the midday (noon-3) and nighttime (7-10) slots are open.

It seems absurd that the successful "Loose Cannons" show with Steve Hartman and Bill Werndl would not end up in the noon-3 slot, but McCarthy said no decisions have been made.

Among the rumors being circulated: that the "Vast Morning Wasteland" with Scott Kaplan and Billy Ray Smith would shift from mornings to nights, and that Hartman and Werndl would be replaced by "Kiley & Booms," a horrendous syndicated show that currently airs in that time slot on 1150.

Radio Wires (November 8, 2002)

Comments from the KGB Messageboard

Wonder why they don't censor the board

Jim You Got Screwed
Posted by: knarfage
Message Title: JM Firing.
"I think everyone who used to listen to KGB and the couple of people, 10 or 12 or so that still listen need to get on as many bulletin boards as possible and tell people the screwing over that JM got and to request people to stop listening to KGB till they rehire JM back. 28 YEARS in the biz at one station and that is the thanks he gets from the suits. Nice work corporate management at Clear Channel. You idiots!! But you dont care, nor will you ever care, dont care about the fans and certainly dont care about the DJ's!!!!!!!"

Posted by: jimbo
Message Title: RE: JM Firing.
"Well i think we all agree Jim got whacked for being Jim and thats a good thing. In fact Sundays paper F2 had very good comments on him...my remarks were the last letter. But why go to a station that does not want you....many times the worst thing that happens CAN BE THE BEST...I have been listening to KPRI and in fact have done some decking work (which is how i meet Jim many years ago) for the owners Bob and Pat they are truly some of the finest people you will ever meet.....What a beautiful blend that would be. Hopefully they can make it happen. Since he got no send off it would have been great to see hin honored before the Petty concert this tuesday... how fitting....jim g"

Posted by: rmertz1
"Jim is the last DJ in San Diego. To show how messed up KGB is, they get rid of the only DJ/radio personality and hire Mojo. They should have left mojo under the no-talent rock he has been under since he has not been able to ride on the Beat Farmers' coat tail and left Jim where he belongs on KGB. We want Jim!!!!!!!!!"

Posted by: gopadres00
"Not only tell people to stop listening to kgb but as I have and boycott all cheap channel stations ( not easy what with the monopoly cc has in this town. Planet103.7 is reasonably inoffensive, and the new KPRI is finding it's voice more every day."

Posted by: Prophet of Ditka
"Did anyone even listen to JM? I loved hearing JM on the radio but what was new and exciting about JM? The answer is nothing. Yes JM is a radio legend and it is too bad to see him leave KGB, but I do not understand the Mojo bashing. Damn straight Mojo is no JM, and for good reason. Mojo is a legend in his own right! But leave it to a couple of close minded people to say that Mojo Nixon is horrible. I think Mojo is hilarious and a great addition to KGB. Sure I will miss hearing JM but I am sure that JM was happy to leave all of the corporate BS at Clear Channel. Best Wishes to Mojo and JM!"

Posted by: LilKimPhuc
"How absolutely CRUEL that the legendary J.M., Jim McGinnis (spelling?) was FIRED for NO REASON by the greedy people at Clear Channel.... and how CRUEL to the REST OF US who now have to endure the HORRIBLE Mojo Jojo ERRRRR Mojo Nixon, who, other than Lee "Butterknife" Hamilton has the most ANNOYING presence on San Diego radio today!!! J.M. truly was "The Last D.J." After 28 years on the SAME STATION, he gets CANNED????? How typical of the ridiculous people who make radio and television decisions in this city (i.e. the incompetent programming buffoons at KFMB, XTRA 690, and now KGB). This is easily the WORST move in recent local radio history. Then again, this is the same company that insists on keeping TRUE broadcasting talent like Jim Rome on a four-hour delay while racist loudmouth Lee Hamilton gets his own live show..... What's next - the end of the DSC??? If KGB really wants to commit ratings suicide, which they obviously do, that would be the next logical move.... Long live J.M..... on the 103.7 Planet or 102.1 KPRI!! Long live the DSC, morning and night! And DOWN with Mojo Nixon!!! KGB used to be my favorite station... and as soon as Mojo Nixon is replaced with J.M., it will be once again. MAYBE.

Posted by: knarfage
FU KGB

Posted by: jimbo "When i read JM got axed..i said check out the new guy...when i did it was some stupid banter about donkey sex...yeah donkey sex....no insightful music triva or background information...donkey sex...ok we are in our 30s and 40s we got over that kind of humor many years ago....enuf said..j

Posted by: bigwavejohn
"absolutely agree!Mojo is a buffoon, who talks just to hear himself. but it has made music during the afternoon ride easier to choose - NOT K G B!"

by: toast
"It's sad that KGB decided to fire a man of such integrity. It's difficult to find a person such as JM in the radio business, and he'll have no problem finding work. My only hope is that it will be in SD. Adios old friend"

Posted by: theplanet
What moronic, chicken s**t, goat blowing weasel would fire Jim? He was and is a San Diego icon!!!! Jim is a class act. Too bad the same cannot be said for clear channel management- Kevin in particular, a real douchebag!

Posted by: LilKimPhuc
Mojo Nixon SUCKS!!!!!!!! This is far and away the WORST decision in local radio since KGB let go of Dave, Shelly, and Chainsaw many years ago (only to come to their senses a few years later).... The following is a tribute to J.M., whose tragic dismissal this week is just another example of Clear Channel's programming incompetence and corporate greed....


"The Last D.J."
Written by Tom Petty

Well you can’t turn him into a company man
You can’t turn him into a whore
And the boys upstairs just don’t understand anymore
Well the top brass don’t like him talking so much
And he won’t play what they say to play
And he don’t want to change what don’t need to change

And there goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
There goes the last DJ

Well some folks say they’re gonna hang him so high
Because you just can’t do what he did
There’s some things you just can’t put in the minds of those kids
As we celebrate mediocrity all the boys upstairs want to see
How much you’ll pay for what you used to get for free

And there goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
And there goes the last DJ

Well he got him a station down in Mexico
And sometimes it will kinda come in
And I’ll bust a move and remember how it was back then

There goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
And there goes the last DJ

Here's hoping J.M. lands on the Planet or KPRI (which actually is a well-managed station). Too bad 28 years on one station means nothing anymore......
FIRE MOJO NIXON!!!
LONG LIVE J.M. and the D.S.C.!!

Letters: Arbitron to Blame For Higher Prices? (November 8, 2002)

From (name withheld but someone I know):

"I've seen those billboards of KGB giving away $10,000 today. How do I know that I'm not competeting with listeners from out of town for the $10,000? I can't trust those corporate radio companies with contests I can't win because I compete with millions of listeners all at once. I have to listen to their junk in the morning and day in order to win?

"Nice try, stupid KGB promoter. Put on a crap format and try to get gulliable San Diegans to tune in to pad your sorry rating. No wonder I suspect Arbitron is corrupt and untrustworthy with their data (the diaries run Friday through Thursday and people tend to write down the station they remember listening to on Thursday).

"The local businesses are getting a bad deal with the radio people overcharging the businesses (which we consumers pay for) touting such inflated ratings for their naturally-low rated stations nobody I know is tuning into. The consumer is paying high prices thanks to "Cheap" Channel and Aribtron's unreliable radio data.

"Dave, I'm part of your Evalutron survey and, as your rules state, I turn in what you listen to at the end of each day, not at the end of each Thursday. Today, I did not listen to a single radio station, except for KPRI's Madison and Tony in the morning as usual, and I listened to KPIG at work during the day.

"I also like your DFSX (http://www.dfsxradio.com) radio station playing cuts of "payola pop" songs getting blown up as well as indie alternative and country nobody here is playing. I wish you would work at pirate 96.9 and do a live show on that station on Sunday nights.

"Thank you for doing San Diego radio news that doesn't have the blurt about that overbloated DR guy everyday in the column."

Editor: Thank you for your kind words. Incidentally, that radio folk tells me that radio pros deal with Arbitron data instead of Evalutron data. The advertisers better think about alternatives of Arbitron, such as radio surveys that involve any citizen to participate in the voting process and overhauling their corrupted diary book structure such as going to a website to enter your votes everyday. That will very much make those Thursday big money giveaways negligable when it comes to inflating the ratings for the week when it's really just the one day when contests are run, which in turn inflates the rest of the week.

Oh, I forgot. There are no radio pros at KGB. So who's dealing with their low Arbitron numbers there? Silly me. A station can tout that they're #1 in some form, but in reality, it's number one for just the 1,500 people surveyed, not the majority of the eligible 2,000,000 people who listen to the radio.

As long as Arbitron is corrupt, I will keep stating that they represent a sampling of the few and does not necessarily represent the majority opinions of the radio listeners in the San Diego Outland, which Clear Channel does not service anyway.

To join the Evalutrons (October's are coming out soon), please e-mail me at the e-mail link at the top of this page. The e-mail address is changing so please don't use davidtan@cts.com anymore. And once again, employees and families and friends of radio stations in the San Diego area are not eligible to participate (I'm not sure about Arbitron on my rule though).

As for "fair and balanced", to heck with that. Every journalist has a bias in one way or another. We're the alternative to the mainstream and proud of it! We don't care if the respectable radio pros such as those from KIFM or the regrettable radio folks such as those from KGB disagree with our way of spinning the news to educate the readers what is really going on with radio. In short, the radio folks care only about themselves, not you and I, the music fans.

Being objectionable and balanced just doesn't cut it here. We're graduates of the Frank Zappa independent thinkers institute. We're witnessing the "Emperor's New Clothes" every day at Clear Channel. Here, biases are embraced and encouraged to any budding journalist who can see behind the motives of every business move aside of corporate radio, fast food chains, untrustworthy car mechanics (such as those from Midas on Convoy), Hollywood's marketing of sex to children, and some idiot group whose sole purpose is to elimiate fun from America (we don't need Al Queda for that job; Clear Channel is already doing that for us).

Radio Wires (November 8, 2002)

Madison and Tony of KPRI played comedy cuts from the late Phil Hartman album, Flat TV, which was featured on the Dr. Demento Show recently.
  • Buy Flat TV - Phil Hartman, Amazon

    STAR 100.7 is featured in the San Diego Monopoly board game! The all-new San Diego Monopoly game showcases "America's Finest City" and comes with custom pewter tokens, including a surfer and beach cruiser. Part of the proceeds will go to Becky's House. Also noted: Jingle Ball 2002 tickets will go on sale Friday at 10 a.m. They'll be sold out before 11 a.m., as previous years have .....

    For those of you keeping score at home: KSYY in Fallbrook is for sale. The 107.1 FM station has been relaying programming from Los Angeles' 107.1 FM. Currently playing Spanish Top 40, the station is known as Viva 107. (wonder if a new owner will take it pop dance!)

    LA Radio Wires 11-8-02

    L.A., CA

    11/8.11/02 - "PROGRAM DIRECTOR : KPFK Radio 90.7 FM is seeking a Program Director to oversee all aspects of program planning, scheduling, and execution..." Also, they need a "NEWS DIRECTOR: KPFK is seeking experienced journalist..." It's all on their site www.kpfk.org/, under Job Openings, but I saw it first in Change Links www.change-links.org/, the list of L.A. happenings, but I didn't see the ad on this site.

    11/8.9/02 - Comments on KLAC - adult standards vs talk. "KLAC Going Back To Standards. While I think older adults shouldn't be disenfranchised from the radio and have a format they can enjoy (such as adult standards), I have to question the management at KLAC about this move." More at and around radio-info.com/boards/ctc/index.cgi?read=15117, the ctcr bb.

    11/8.7/02 - "KLAC/L.A. To Go Adult Standards Next Month. Earlier this week R&R reported rumors that Talk KLAC would flip to Adult Standards, and now sources inside the station are confirming those rumors - and KLAC staffers have reportedly been told the change will happen sooner rather than later. Don't expect the new format to be a mixture of some talk along with music, as other AMs have done in the past year or two; it will be all pop standards 24/7, with the exception of Los Angeles Lakers basketball. A mid-December launch date for the new KLAC format is expected to be announced soon." So says www.radioandrecords.com/Subscribers/TodaysNews/homepage.htm, on an inside page.

    Radio Wires (November 8, 2002)

    Hot, Hot Buzz about SBS / Infinity and 93.5. Dance ? Glenn, got scooped or duped?

    Posted by peter on 11/7/2002, 19:22:08

    Spanish Broadcasting System has a third format for Los Angeles -- and maybe an FM to do it on.

    Raul Alarcon is working out a deal with Infinity to move the KFSG/93.5 in toward Los Angeles, to cover another 1 million people. However -- that depends on whether the Church of the Foursquare Gospel wants to end its LMA next March.

    Could this be the dance station they are talking about or not another spanish?

    Could this involve KFWB?

    Also on the messageboard...

    By Ben Shanton:

    re: more diversity with radio ownership deregulation...

    "What diversity? Miller counts the formats in the cumulatively 200 top rated markets, not by market by market formats. I would guess that the 7% increase he cites are happening outside of the top markets of those 200 barring the proliferation of spanish formats. Stations in markets that are small enough that the biggest companies like Clear Channel and Infinity have decided that there wasn't enough money to be made from buying their stations, are more likely to have unique programming. This is a reversal of what radio was like a generation ago when the major metropolitan markets had the highest quality radio stations.

    "I'm sure I'm not alone, but I can't listen to any station too long or too often that doesn't deviate from a short playlist of songs that sound too similar with frequent long commercial blocks. This market has been taken over by bean counters and has pretty much purged itself of people enthusiastic about music.

    "I don't care how Miller and the deregulation advocates try to spin it, since I only care about english-speaking stations where I'm at. I know that since the 1996 Telecom Act took effect, in Southern California radio listeners have taken a back seat to maximizing profits anyway anyhow as quality has fallen through the floor.

    "I hope Sen Russ Feingold is still able to have some influence in Congress, and if enough people raise hell, even the Republicans will back off on deregulation and find other ways to make the rich richer."

    Bit (November 6, 2002)

    KMEX 34 began broadcasting in digital on channel 35 from Mt. Wilson.

    Big City Radio to Auction Off Assets (November 5, 2002)

    rronline
    The company has retained Jorgenson Broadcast Brokerage to market the company's 12 radio stations and in-house radio rep firm and later conduct an auction for the dozen FM properties it owns, located in Southern California, Chicago, the New York metropolitan area and Allentown, PA. Big City will use the proceeds from any sales of its assets to immediately pay the principal and interest on its 11.25% senior discount notes due 2005, which the company was unable to complete by an extended deadline of Oct. 15. Any remaining proceeds from the stations' sale will be distributed to Big City shareholders. The sale of any of Big City's 12 stations is subject to the approval of the company's board of directors as well as the FCC. Big City also says that, should the company fail to raise the funds needed to pay the notes due 2005, it will consider "other strategic alternatives" that include filing for bankruptcy.

    Big City Radio operates the trio of radio stations on 107.1 FM in Ventura, Los Angeles, and Northern San Diego county. Formats ranged from sports talk to alternative and others including its current Spanish language format that have failed to produce ratings due to their poor strength of their signals.

    Radio Wires (November 6, 2002)

    North County Times - Randy Dotinga
    When radio makes you surly... Sometimes it's all just too much. The obnoxious and humorless commercials, the fawning reliance on focus groups, the domination by tired old hacks who haven't had an original idea since the fall of Saigon. (no wonder David Tanny uses an MP3 player in his car!)

    What Dotinga says about Compact discs and MP3s playing in your car: "Pros: You choose your own music instead of allowing some radio programmer 3,000 miles away to do it. The sound is better, and how else are you going to hear obscure artists like the Throat Singers of Tuva? Cons: A CD with 45 minutes of music (like, say, "Tuva: Voices From the Center of Asia") may cost $16.98 or more. That's a lot, even to hear Tuva greatest hits like "When I Graze My Beautiful Sheep" and "Domestication of Camel to Calf." Unlike little Walkman radios, CD players are clunky ---- just try fitting one in your pocket for a jog around the block. MP3 players are tiny and look great, but they can be expensive ---- $300 or more for the popular iPods ---- and a big pain to use for the technologically challenged who wouldn't know an MP3 from an MVP."

    Blurt: has not much on radio except for Radio Swami leaving 92.1 because he didn't want to work for free if Halloran wasn't his boss.

    Radio Wires (November 6, 2002)

    New Radio Star
    LETTERMAN BEGINS ON RADIO IN ONE WEEK... The idea to put the David Letterman show on radio began with new Infinity Broadcasting Chairman John Sykes who is an avid Letterman viewer. Sykes reportedly was in a situation where he could not see the Letterman show and that spurred him to ask CBS TV President Les Moonves if Infinity could put the show on radio. Moonves said yes and David, himself, okayed the move on the condition that it only be played once and that no editing at all take place. Letterman also is not charging money to put the show on radio but is gaining millions of dollars in promotion across CBS in return. Already, the top 15 markets are covered with the show offered first to Infinity stations on a first come basis. (KLSX 97.1 in Los Angeles will be airing the program)

    Radio Wires (November 6, 2002)

    Chris Carmichael - San Diego Radio Net
    HOOKED ON TRIVIA: THE RADIO GAME SHOW" just turned 19 years old yesterday. Launched on Nov 5, 1983 we've enjoyed an unprecedented run and broken records quite some time ago for being radio's longest running show of a strictly game/quiz show format! And no game show on radio or on TV has ever had a show than ran as long as mine does. More about it at Chris's site.

    Star 100.7's is not promising that this year's Jingle Ball will be the best ... the line up tells you it is: San Diego resident Jewel (corrected spelling), The Goo Goo Dolls, LeAnne Rimes, Def Leppard, and John Mayer. Tickets go on sale Friday at 10 a.m. and it should sell out in under an hour ... like previous years have. The proceeds benefit Becky's House. Star 100.7 will host on-air auctions for tickets and other goodies. Visit HiStar.com for the latest details.

    B 94.9 To Change Format? (November 5, 2002)

    Chris Carmichael - San Diego Radio Net
    CC is reporting that the low-rated B94.9, playing a one-decade 80's format, may be in for a format tweak at long last. The format bowed in San Diego two years ago this week to initially respectable ratings, but as time wore on and the narrow selection of songs wore out, the ratings took a dive and never recovered.

    D.T.'s prediction: a soft pop format to compete with KYXY, but not 94.9's sister station KIFM. A long shot: rap-free pop dance. Ho hum. At least there's the internet for dance radio in cities finer than rap-radio infested San Diego.

    Editor: come to think of it...his initials are the same as that of Clear Channel's!

    From his website: "Word is that it was late night in the Jefferson-Pilot production room laying down new promos, sounders and imaging ... Stay Tuned"

    On a better note, "Little Tommy Sablan writes: "Star 100.7 is a featured SPOT in the new San Diego Monopoly game. That's right, you can land on many San Diego landmarks on the new board game, including Star 100.7. You can get the new Monopoly game where games are sold in San Diego." Also, Tommy adds: "Do you know of a family who needs HELP this HOLIDAY SEASON? DO you know of a family that may not be able to afford a small gift for their children? EMAIL Little Tommy as he prepares for another BREAKING AND ENTERING CHRISTMAS. Email Little Tommy at sablan@san.rr.com . This will be Jeff and Jer's 4th annual B&E Christmas, where Little Tommy and his hoodlum friends break in to a home and sets up CHRISTMAS for a needy family. Later on this week, you can go to the Jeff and Jer page of the web-site and HEAR the last few from CHRISTMAS' past. Aerosmith and Kidd Rock come to town tomorrow night. Listen to Jeff and Jer in the morning for your chance to WIN tickets to the concert. YOU GOT TO FLIP FOR IT! Find out what that means in morning on Star 100.7's Jeff and Jer Showgram."

    Premiere Lays Off 100 Staffers As 15 Shows/Services Are Cancelled (November 5, 2002)

    (where's the source of this information?) Premiere Radio Networks will "retire" such longform syndicated programs as Rhythm Top 30 Countdown With Ellen K and Rockline at the end of December and will offer the final installments of American Top 40 Flashback: The '80s, Audio Timeline, Guestlink Interview Service, Jim Cramer's Real Money and Spotlight On Specials on Dec. 31. Premiere will also stop offering its Premiere Platinum Prep Service, The Girly Sheet Prep Service and five production libraries (Butchers, Beats and Breaks; Extreme Cuts; Fifth Floor; Incredible Country; and Noise Generator) at the end of 2002. "We deeply regret the personal and professional dislocation of the people who staff and supervise these programs and services," Premiere President/COO Kraig Kitchin says, adding that the cancellations followed an evaluation of "the relevancy of our products and services to audiences and advertisers in order to remain competitive and profitable."

    Big City Radio to Auction Off Assets (November 5, 2002)

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    The company has retained Jorgenson Broadcast Brokerage to market the company's 12 radio stations and in-house radio rep firm and later conduct an auction for the dozen FM properties it owns, located in Southern California, Chicago, the New York metropolitan area and Allentown, PA. Big City will use the proceeds from any sales of its assets to immediately pay the principal and interest on its 11.25% senior discount notes due 2005, which the company was unable to complete by an extended deadline of Oct. 15. Any remaining proceeds from the stations' sale will be distributed to Big City shareholders. The sale of any of Big City's 12 stations is subject to the approval of the company's board of directors as well as the FCC. Big City also says that, should the company fail to raise the funds needed to pay the notes due 2005, it will consider "other strategic alternatives" that include filing for bankruptcy.

    KOCL To Go All Holiday Music (November 27, 2002)

    KOCL ("FOOL" Oldies 95.7) is going to switch to All Christmas music on November 27th. Clear Channel is already running promos for KOCL's holiday programming on all of its 12 San Diego stations.

    (yawn) Can't wait for DFSX Comedy Radio to run its own All Christmas format before then.

    You Just Can't Get a Free Ride on Daves' Fun Stuff (November 5, 2002)

    Here's what some radio folk (as opposed to a pro) in town has to say about some of the recent articles at my website. That's the only clue I'm going to give you.

    "The typical successful radio station in SD might, might bill 15 million in a year. Wow, what a journalist. Thanks for the credit in coming up with the idea for Nude with a Dude (which was written by somebody else), but in keeping with the tradition of not getting anything factually correct, you f**ked it up again. By the way, does it just kill you that my show is number 1? I mean in the real ratings that actual radio professionals have to deal with, not the ones that you make up."

    Wow. Talk about jealousy, folks. The rules did state that nobody from radio can participate in the Evalutron polls, and look who's complaining about last month's results (low ratings for Clear Channel radio stations)? Were you one of the voters that had their ballot invalidated last summer when we found out? Straw man argument, I must add.

    Want to tout who's number one in San Diego on this fine website? Just call our advertising office and we'll strike you a deal at 555-NO-AD. Operators are standing by. The phone call is free, but it will cost $99.95 just to get through to an operator.

    There are radio folks, such as some of the buffoons from CCSD, and then, there are the radio pros found in many finer radioopolisses across America where personal-level professionalism still caters to the real employers: the listeners!

    What's the number one morning funny radio show among the San Diego radio listeners? Hint: it's not originated from San Diego.

    Funny Morning Radio Show CDs (November 5, 2002)

    Well, you won't find any CDs from the local morning radio shows here, but the rest of America has a wealth of some of the best morning radio show songs and sketches available on CDs. You can see some of the best from my brand new davesfunstuff.com section at this link below...
  • Funny Radio Show CDs - featuring links to collections by John Boy and Billy, Bob and Tom, Johnson and Tofte, and more!

    Radio Wires (November 5, 2002)

    Gary Lycan - Orange County Register
    KABC/790 AM dropped Mark Taylor and Gloria Allred and replaced them with Al Rantel.

    The move came as no surprise. Once syndicated talker Bill O'Reilly arrived last May, Taylor and Allred were on only 11:05-11:45 a.m. weekdays, hardly enough time to even get warmed up on a hot topic. Both are talented talkers, so we'd bet they'll both find work somewhere else.

    Rantel is also on 7-10 p.m. weekdays.

    'FOR SALE' SIGN?...Look for broadcasting giant Infinity to announce this week - or by no later than Nov. 15 - which Los Angeles radio station it will sell to comply with FCC ownership limits, which it exceeded when it bought KCAL/9 this year.

    Infinity could seek a deadline extension, but word is the commission would oppose it.

    If a station goes on the block, no one with knowledge is talking. The stations are KRTH-FM, KCBS-FM, KTWV-FM, KLSX-FM, KROQ-FM, KNX-AM and KFWB-AM. FMs would bring a bigger price. It's doubtful Infinity would sell KNX or KFWB - the latter is currently posting job openings and has Dodgers baseball next year. Stay tuned.

    NPR WEST... National Public Radio is based in Washington, D.C., has just opened a 25,000- square-foot plant in Culver City this weekend.

    It will be home to the network's L.A. news bureau, the Tavis Smiley show, and - beginning next week - special programming on "Morning Edition," "All Things Considered" and "Talk of the Nation."

    NPR programming airs on KPCC/89.3 FM and KCRW/ 89.9 FM.

    STATION BREAKS Mark Denis Interchange: The California Highway Division is ready to post a sign commemorating the Mark Denis Memorial Interchange at the 91 and 55 Freeways as soon as the state receives $4,200. Don Bastida of AirWatch has been orchestrating the fund raising. "Thank you for posting the info on the Mark Denis Memorial Fund and Interchange," Don wrote. "At the time you posted we had $800 of the needed $4,200. As of this moment we are just $305 shy of the goal. We have you to thank for the increased interest. We are most impressed with the donations we received from readers of your Web site who are not necessarily current members of the L.A. radio and/or traffic community." Once again, any donations can be sent to:

    Mark Denis Memorial Fund,
    C/O AirWatch America/Clear Channel Traffic
    1551 N. Tustin Ave., Suite 570
    Santa Ana, CA 92705
    

    Whether San Diego Radio (November 5, 2002)

    And as for Arbitron's collective radio ratings, they continue to slide downwards as people, tired of the predictability and bore, switch off to alternate forms of entertainment such as Internet radio, DVDs, and video games, while radio continues to produce unengaging and forgettable homogenous music formats that would easily be given an "F" if they were rated by the college music professors. Radio Economics 101: they're failing the grade!

    Here are some letters from the readers who brought up the subject:

    From Gary Reynolds:

    "Radio has come a long way towards oblivion by its own hand. It used to be about the people who love music and impressing the listeners. Now its all about the people who don't care about music and care only about impressing the suits from some way over yonder city. Radio has been loosing their listeners while corporate radio thinks only about rightsizing and the bottom line. No wonder teenagers hate radio today. We're talking about a potential problem with getting the young people into radio.

    "That is why radio is losing listeners by the millions each year and soon enough those who invested in these corupt corporations will lose all their retirement money, those of us who get it call this Enron radio. Without competition the product becomes cheapened. Corners are cut and so are all the people who cost more money and are the best at what they do. Clear Channel is among the companies leading radio into oblivion. What happened to classical radio on a strong station? Oldies, rap, wimp rock, and country chicks are all that's playing on the radio. Music culture is dead here."

    Editor: I agree. It's all about cutting salaries and staffs just to make more money without reivesting the money on better programming to bring back the listeners away from other forms of entertainment. Ratings and target demos don't mean diddly squat to advertisers if the overall numbers show the station is halfway sunk in the quarterly ratings books.

    A big mistake in programming diversity is by creating formats for demographics that are most likely to listen to the format, rather than to bring in new formats that will bring in the listeners. Oldies mean nothing to today's teenage listeners. They can't relate to Woodstock, sock hops, Beatlemania, or the new wave revolution of the 80's, and many listeners are turned off by rap and rap influenced genres. Sales of rap music are sharply down compared to last year, so it's likely that rap music is a niche product of the 90's and is outdated today.

    Where's the diversity in San Diego radio among the Clear Channel stations? Not a single teenager I asked on the street says that they have a remote interest in radio and they prefer to download MP3s off the Internet. They have 14 stations they're running, and they can't get any new listeners? Whose fault is it that radio's ratings are down and continue to ebb as older people die off and the younger people don't take up the slack? Whose fault is it when a single radio company programs four stations that feature rap, three stations that play rock, five stations that play old music, and one low-rated country station, and they don't know that diversity really means creating unique-sounding formats that don't sound like any of their other stations they are programming? No wonder the programmers at CCSD can't do radio right.

    Who's On Hold? (November 5, 2002)

    L.A., CA
    11/4/02 - laradio.com and David Tanny are both off today. Any connection?

    Letters: Los Angelesiziation of San Diego Continues In Radio (November 4, 2002)

    From John Higgins:

    "Dave, your article about XTRA Los Angeles swallowing XTRA San Diego didn't go far enough! :-)

    "This is the beginning of the Los Angelesization of San Diego radio (of course, you're no stranger to it since you listen to radio outside this area anyway)! Soon, Clear Channel San Diego will cease to be when it figures out that they can save a lot of money operating all of their radio stations in Southern California (plus the eight in Santa Barbara and Lancaster) out of one big building in Los Angeles.

    "Clear Channel will give new meaning to McRadio as it feeds the same programming and jocks, say, that of KIIS-FM over to 93.3 in San Diego and 107.7 in Santa Barbara. Saves them a lot of money to simply duplicate KIIS's programming and regional commercials over the same wires. They can also do the same thing by folding in KIST 1340's sports programming into XTRA Los Angeles.

    "KGB and KTYD can duplicate the same programming, and they can LMA the Chase Radio Partner's 99.1 signal into another KTYD/KGB so that it doesn't compete with any of the KIIS'ses here.

    "Traffic reports will take longer unless some engineer can put in substitute a localized traffic report for that from Los Angeles for the Clear Channel stations in San Diego and Santa Barbara.

    "As for the 'leftover' stations that CC runs in San Diego that can't be dup'd on Los Angeles, the rest can still all be run out of the Los Angeles building with programming that's not duplicated down here, therefore, eliminating the need for a CCSD building by Qualcomm altogether!

    "Who would listen to the Los Angelesized stations in San Diego if they're really not local anymore? Watch for Infinity to do the same with their two properties. Watch for the Astor to run all of their SD stations out of Orange County! Salem can run KCBQ and KPRZ out of Glendale!

    "To close, your comment about a pile of poop at KGB made my day. I'm not sure if those guys are the #1 or #2 morning team in San Diego if you know what I mean."

    Editor: I used to wish there was a KIIS-FM in San Diego back in the 80's. Looks like that wish may come true 20 years later whether I care or not.

    Let's Los Angelesize the San Diego Zoo with buffoons like Bonaduce and Tom Leykis from LA LA Land! Let's import the smog and Los Angelesize the air! Let Los Angeles annex San Diego county if they lose San Fernando! Let the Chargers go to L.A. and they will be Los Angelesized! New stadium, huh!

    From Mark Moores:

    "I remember when the Mighty 690 billed itself as coming from Los Angeles in their station ID's, though I know their transmitter is in TJ because of the Spanish IDs they run too, but they billed themselves as L.A. instead of S.D. so they could get more ad revenue by billing itself more like a regional station.

    "In the late 80s when it became a sports station, it simulcasted its TJ signal into L.A. with AM 670 so they can hear the station up there in spots where 690 didn't reach through a LMA agreement, so 690 for a while was more like a regional station.

    "With the merging of 690 and 1150 into one, XTRA or whatever it will become will once again have one signal over two metro areas like it was 10 years ago. Only this time, it will be Los Angeles going down instead of San Diego going up into L.A., and one company will be LMAing the TJ transmitter.

    "If Clear Channel wanted to merge the two AM operations into one, then they're going about it the wrong way. They should use the 570 instead of the 1150 signal to fold 690 into it since there are spots where both 1150 and 690 does not reach, and 570's signal is stronger going south. Move the XTRA sports L.A. to 570 and move the talk to 1150.

    "Since 570 owns the rights to the Lakers, the games can be dupped into San Diego as well so I can get the games clearer instead of dealing with out of state nighttime interference on 570.

    "Once again, CC bungled up another idea. They can put the 1150 power to 1,000,000 watts outwards, but still can't get more than 250 watts going down to Orange County!

    "My sympathies go out to the XTRA workers who may no longer be doing sports radio, though I'll bet that ESPN radio will snatch some of them up soon enough for them."

    From Wayne Allen:

    "I beg to differ about your thoughts about Clear Channel. KPEZ runs Dr. Demento Saturdays at 4am out of Texas on the Internet. At least I can get through to a feed with a stereo signal that's listenable, unlike that from KOST which I can't get through to, which is late for me anyway since I go to bed at 8pm.

    "At least there's a Clear Channel radio station that finds Demento entertaining enough to air, plus the funny Bob and Tom show in the morning while I get up for work. Thanks for putting the ad for the station on your website. I like the station ads."

    Editor: Anyone from CCSD want a free radio ad on my website? Put on some compelling programming for a change. When you get a real dance station without the rap or funny comedy in San Diego, please let me know.

    Radio Wires (October 29, 2002)

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    Infinity To Tell FCC Of L.A. Plans Within Two Weeks... Company SVP/Communications Dana McClintock tells R&R Infinity is planning to inform the commission by Nov. 3 of its plans for meeting FCC ownership limits in Los Angeles, where the company must divest one of its seven radio stations in order for Viacom to close on its $650 million purchase of KCAL-TV. The purchase of KCAL from Young Broadcasting gives Infinity parent Viacom two TV stations in the market (it owns CBS flagship KCBS-TV). A search of the FCC's website shows that no sale applications have been filed by Infinity as of yet, and rumors remain rampant that one of Infinity's L.A. five FMs will be spun off. Should Infinity request a waiver and seek an extension of its divestment deadline, the company could have an uphill battle with the FCC. Commissioner Michael Copps stated in May, "I do not expect to see, not do I expect to support, a request for an extension of the waiver. I expect the company's best efforts to result in a sale well within the time period allowed." FCC sources tell R&R that Viacom has until Nov. 15 to respond.

    Go Loco News (November 3, 2002)

    PRESS RELEASE:
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    GO LOCO:  LOCAL MUSIC FROM ORANGE COUNTY & IT'S BORDERS!!!
    
    Listen & celebrate GO LOCO's 30th edition
    on Sun.11/3/02 (8p-12a Pacific) 
    on "Cool 94.3" fm KMXN, Anaheim, CA 
    [heard in OC/LA/IE/and North County SD areas].
    
    with an exclusive live set 
    from the legendary punk band THE ADOLESCENTS!
    
    Listen to Tazy's Picks during the show (around 10pm Pacific) 
    and hear selections from a live set by The Adolescents, 
    which was recorded recently for the online webcast program called: 
    
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    Tell your friends to hear GO LOCO every 
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    Musically yours - Tazy
    SP RADIO ONE/KMXN "Cool 94.3" fm
    

    Top Ten (October 28-November 3, 2002)

    The DTV Ratings System has been replaced by the Top Ten TV rankings.
    1. The Simpsons (FOX)
    2. South Park (r) (Comedy Central)
    3. Malcolm in the Middle (FOX)
    4. Sabrina the Teenage Witch (WB)
    5. King of the Hill (FOX)
    6. The Simpsons (r) (7:30) (FOX)
    7. Futurama (r) (FOX)
    8. Bernie Mac (FOX)
    9. Late Show with David Letterman (average for the week) (CBS)
    10. Charmed (WB)
    
    Others that didn't make it: Saturday Night Live (NBC), Drew Carey Show (ABC), Whose Line Is It Anyway (ABC), What I Like About You (WB), Cederic the Entertainer (FOX)

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